bmv
Действительно замечательная картинка.
Заметила, что там выше написано, что с 2011 лпемсовет объявил "соболей" нежелательным окрасом и, соответственно, щенки такого окраса не будут признаваться Английским кеннел-клубом . Интересено почему? Кто знает, может этот окрас несет за собой какие-нибудь физические дефекты?

На междунар.форуме начата очень интересная темка о соболином окрасе.
Думаю, нет криминала, если я перепостую некоторые посты очень уважаемых
заводчиков-экспертов на англ., а потом мы тоже давайте попробуем разобраться
в написанном. Кто может помочь с более точным переводом, плизззз!

1.
Dear All,
  The FCI General Committee accepted the proposal of the FCI Standard
Commission to change the Standard of the English cocker spaniel with
immediate effect 5 WEEKS AGO!!!! The wording about the colour is the
same than of the Brit Standard, word by word. The FCI utmost priority to
keep the respect of the "country of origin" standard-wise and The Kennel
Club already had changed the Standard with the agreement of the British
Spaniel Council, whose opinion was that the SABLE colour never been a
genuine, authentic colour in the breed-history and arrived as a result
of some cross-breeding (in the USA?).
  When I'"ve asked the FCI office yesterday, why the new, already accepted
standard didn't appaer on the FCI website, the answer was: they cannot
publish it before it has tranlated for all 4 FCI languages....
  So it is all up to the judge"s experience, knowledge and decision what
to do. I know quite a few judges, who already disqualified the sables
before (f.e. John Gillespie in the Hungarian Clubshow many years ago).
  The new Standard has no "disqualification" criteria about the colour,
but an intention that the colour has to be one of the listed one's. The
sable and the particolour sable colour is NOT listed in the Standard. So
it is up to te judge what he/she thinks about it. The result easily can
be a disqualification. Obviously a dog whose colour is NOT in the
Standard cannot win unless the judge wants to blame him/herself.
  My own decision is to give "sufficient" but only if the breed type is
there and the dog's conformation is good, but it is only me.
  The good question will rise up: how to give a "breeding permission" for
a dog with a "not-listed-in-the standard" colour, who -anyway and
theoretically- can be able to produce a World winner black, gold or
black/tan puppy (even though it is VERY unlikely knowing the general
quality of the sables)........
  Don't ask me more questions, because I cannot take the answers for that.
I have my own opinion which doesn't need to be the general opinion and I
don't want to publish it because of this fact......

  Yours,
  Tamás
  (Member of the FCI General Committee)

Если оч.коротко, то ФЦИ полностью согласился с англ.стандартом по поводу соболиного
окраса англ.кокер спаниелей.
На сайте ФЦИ пока нет информации об этом, т.к. нет готовых переводов на 4 общепринятых
иностр.языка.

Дисквалифицировать или нет такой окрас - вот в чем вопрос.

Hi MLD
In the UK there was only a handful of 'serious' show breeders that bred
Sables and now we have the test available to determine what colours are
being carried by individual dogs it will be easy to avoid producing them
in future generations.
I would imagine though that the puppy farmers/commercial breeders will
continue to breed them as they sell them as 'a very rare colour' to anyone
that is daft enough to pay their over inflated prices.
Yours
Linda R
Delindere UK

В UK единицы заводчиков, которые разводят соболей, и есть возможность спокойно отследить, какие
конкретно собаки несут такой окрас, что даст возможность легко избежать их повтор в дальнейшем.
Хотя можно представить, что заводчики-коммерсанты все таки будут продолжать разводить
соболей, и продавать их как очень редкий окрас по очень хорошим ценам.

а что за окрас то такой?
и тоже не понимаю, за что их так?

Очень жалко. Мне, если честно, очень нравится  и черно-подпалый и соболиный  окрасы. Особенно вот эти кобели  http://www.lascale.hu/males.html

обсуждение на межд.форуме продолжается. оч.интересно, некоторые поставлю.
Разводить ли, и продавать соболей гораздо дороже- одна из основных тем.

In the last 18 months we have had two litters that have contained "sables"  We are one of the very few breeders that sell or sold puppies for the same price as any other colour.  All our puppies are £700 regardless of colour.  Sadly the majority of people in the UK that breed them are selling them for anything up to double the price, and are still doing so.  Sadly the general public is stupid enough to pay these over inflated prices.  Not so long ago i had a call from a cocker breeder telling me about a purchase that his friend had made from one of the "undesirable breeders" and that she had paid £1250 for what she thought was a red sable.  When i saw the photo i nearly fell of my chair with laughter, it was the ugliest cocker i had ever seen and it was a red mis-mark and certainly not a sable.

There is another undesirable breeder that uses a sable cocker to her poodles and sells them for £1200...words fail me with that

The two puppies we currently have are both still going abroad, one to Germany and the other to Italy, both owners are fully aware of what is happening with the FCI so its not stopping them having the colour that they love.

If we have any puppies in the future they will be sold at the same price, just because they maybe undesirable in the show ring makes no odds to the pet owner who wants a healthy happy puppy in the colour that they like

I just hope one day soon the public will wise up and stop paying stupid amounts of money for sables

Best wishes
Sally Wainwright

Если коротко, то щенок в UK в среднем стоит 700 фунтов, а соболя иногда продаются и за 1250 фунтов,
почти в два раза дороже.
Как пишет Sally, когда она увидела фото щенка, купленного за такие деньги, то ничего уродливее
раньше не видела, он был неправильно окрашен (для соболиного) и фактически совсем и  не соболь. Обман и там же? Горе разведенцы действуют?